Another from the drafts folder. More testimony for Amanda Cleag’s Widow’s Pension hearing. His wife testified here Rented Land.
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Deposition C in Amanda Cleag’s Widow’s Pension Claim
I am 57
My address is: 1239 Birch Street, Los Angeles California
Occupation: Express man
I have been living in Los Angeles for about 21 years and I lived in and around Austin, Texas, for 20 years before coming here to reside.
I first became acquainted with Abram Cleag and his wife Amanda Cleag when they first came to Dr. Phillip’s plantation, near Austin, Texas, all of forty years ago, and I knew them in and around Austin, Texas for all of 20 years, and I knew them as long here in California. They came here a little ahead of me and my wife, from Austin, Texas.
When they first came to Dr. Phillips plantation, they were a young looking married couple, and said they had come from San Marcos, Texas, where they had gone from Athens, Tenn. with the Tucker family, and that the Tucker family had gone into the state of Virginia to live.
No, I do not know how long Abram Cleag and Amanda Cleag had been married before they came to Dr. Phillip’s plantation, and I don’t recollect that they ever told me where they had gotten married, but Abram Cleag told me that he had been in the army during the civil war, and after he came here he got a pension for his army service.
I know personally, however that Abram Cleag and Amanda Cleag always lived together as man and wife all the time I was associated with them in Texas for 20 years, and that they lived as man and wife all the time here in California up to the time of Abram Cleag’s death in Long Beach, Calif., about a year ago. Yes, sir, I attended his funeral in Long Beach, and saw him dead. My wife and I used to visit the Cleags in Long Beach, and have styed at his home for a week at the time.
I personally know that Amanda Cleag, this claimant for pension has not remarried since the death of her husband, Abram Cleag, and that she has had to work to support herself.
Yes, I know of my own knowledge that Abram Cleag and Amanda Cleag always lived together as man and wife, never being separated or divorced, during all the 40 or more years I knew them up to the time of Abram Cleag’s death, and that they were known and recognized as man and wife by all who know them both in Texas and California. I also know that the Cleags had two children born to them, but none of them are alive. She had a granddaughter, Avalon Price, with whom she lived in Long Beach, after the death of her husband Abram, but that granddaughter died recently and Amanda is now alone in the world. She has no relations alive that I know of, and I don’t know that Abram Cleag has any living relatives.
Question: Had Abram Cleag been married before his marriage to Amanda Cleage, this claimant for pension, as you may have heard?
Answer: I never heard that he had been married before his marriage to Amanda, and he never told me that he had been.
Question: Had Amanda, the claimant been married before her marriage to Abram Cleag, the soldier?
Answer: Not that I know of. I never heard it said by either of them that Amanda had been married before her marriage to Abram Cleag. If either one of them had ever been previously married, I never heard of it.
It is my understanding that they had grown up in Tennessee, but I never met anyone who knew them there.
No, I never heard that Amanda Cleag had been married to a Lou Dedrick, from whom she was divorced before her marriage to Abram Cleag. I can’t hardly believe that, as she was a young woman when I got to know her in Texas.
I know for sure, however, that they always lived together as man and wife all the years I knew them, and that they were never separated or divorced.
Yes, that is my signature to that joint affidavit shown me. No, I can’t fix the date any better that I have done to you, when I first got to know the Cleags.
Am not interested nor related. This has been read to me and I have understood questions, and my answers are correct.
27 May, 1909
4 thoughts on ““…first came to Dr. Phillip’s plantation””
A very good testimonial
Yes, I thought he and his wife were both very good.
I remember following along when you were posting about Abram and Amanda Cleag. It probably made a greater impression because they lived for a time in Austin, where I live.
I looked at what is in my blog drafts and there is nothing worth posting! An idea with one photo and a sentence, something that was current and is now really outdated … a few worthy ideas that need a lot work to flesh out. I guess they will remain drafts for now.
I’m glad you remember them.
I am going to look and see if there is anything else ready to publish. I can’t imagine why I didn’t publish at the time. It must have been during an A to Z and they didn’t fit a letter.
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